More Than A Compact Truck?
I’m guessing that many of you Open Roadies have only seen the small bit of the A-BAT, a concept vehicle
we debuted at the North American International Automobile Show in Detroit in January, and introduced to you in our first post about the vehicle, titled "Spotlight on Detroit: A-BAT Comes to Town," on January 15. We also showed the vehicle at the Chicago Auto Show, and now that the excitement has died down a bit, we thought we’d describe it in a bit more detail and seek your opinions about it.
The A-BAT – or Advanced-Breakthrough Aerodynamic Truck – is a highly flexible four-passenger compact truck that uses a unitized body, instead of the separate cab, cargo bed and steel ladder frame more usually seen in trucks of all sizes.
The A-BAT’s flexibility goes far beyond its unitized construction, however. First of all, it’s designed to be at home on dirt roads, city streets and Interstate highways. And more important, its motive power is provided by Toyota’s Hybrid Synergy Drive. That’s right, it’s a hybrid, so it’s got the low emissions and high fuel economy we all want.
In fully enclosed form, the A-BAT’s cargo bed is just 4 feet long – enough space
for a whole lot of camping or sports gear. But dropping a midgate at the rear of the passenger cabin and folding out a bed extender provides the capacity required to haul that familiar benchmark of pickup-truck capacity, the 4 x 8 sheet of plywood. And a translucent roof panel slides open to allow for tall, bulky cargo in the cargo bed.
The bed has additional features that are further aimed at expanding the A-BAT’s usefulness. These include tailgate lighting for illuminating the load in the bed, a first-aid kit and flashlight integrated into the tailgate, sliding tie-downs and an AC power outlet. Storage for sports and leisure equipment is provided in the lockable drawers in the bed walls, and additional storage is accessible through sliding doors conveniently placed in and outside of the truck bed. And if that isn’t enough, even more storage capacity is found in a large sliding drawer beneath the bed, accessible without opening the tailgate.
Taking the concept of environmental efficiency a bit beyond the use of Hybrid Synergy Drive, the A-BAT has translucent solar panels in the top surface of its instrument panel. These capture sunlight and convert it into energy that helps power the retractable, portable navigation unit, portable power pack and backlit information displays found in the A-BAT’s interior.
That interior’s alloy center console
houses a portable power pack that provides both AC and DC electrical power for powering tools, electrical gear while camping, a laptop computer, small appliances or assisting a vehicle jump-start.
So at a time when our pickups have gotten larger, what we have here is nothing less than the reinvention of the compact pickup. It’s cool looking, practical, useful, fun to drive and, best of all, it’s a hybrid.
The question that most frequently arises, of course, is this one: Is the A-BAT slated for production? Well, Toyota never comments on advance product. And that brings me to the most important part of this post. Using the comment area you’ll find below this post, tell us what you think of the A-BAT. Should we build it, or not? And if we do build it, what features should we keep, what features should we add, and what should we do differently?
We’re really interested in knowing what you think.
- Ian Cartabiano, Calty Project Chief Designer

The truck has great flexibility of use, however I think the front needs full headlights to make it more appealing. It looks more like a squinting face, and for wider appeal, I think the larger headlights would be more effective. Also, a possible way to seal the cabin with the midgate down would be great for colder climates.
Marketing and communications specialist,
Lincoln, Nebraska.
Posted by: Beau Snyder | February 21, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Reading about it, I like it. Although for me, the benchmark size is more along the lines of "Can I strap a queen size mattress into it?".
But (although this is unlikely to make it past comment approval) looking at the picture it's just incredibly ugly. That whole "sides of the bed go up to meet the cabin" thing in the back has always looked ugly in the Honda Ridgeline, to. But the rest of it is just...ugly.
Posted by: Paul Rivers | February 21, 2008 at 02:19 PM
Great truck. I was very excited when first saw it. It has to be a 5 seater though. Like everything about it, the fact that it's green and not large, even the looks.
Posted by: Roman | February 21, 2008 at 04:40 PM
I will buy one. Get it to market.
I would also like to Toyota diesel pickup. Where is US Hilux ??
Posted by: T Lewis | February 21, 2008 at 06:05 PM
Of course you should build it. How about fold up seats in the bed for extra passengers? I would buy the A-BAT tomorrow if it were available, but instead I am buying the hybrid Highlander. We need more options, quick. How is the fuel efficiency and the price?
Posted by: Shelley Trazkovich, M.D. | February 21, 2008 at 06:52 PM
I miss those "compact trucks" of the past. For some reason, the Tacoma & Nissan Frontier got bigger. So I would like to see a compact truck as classy as the old Nissan Hardbody King Cab!
Posted by: BGCee | February 21, 2008 at 10:19 PM
You should build this truck. America has no leadership at the federal level to combat the oil crisis. This vehicle will sell very well and force American automakers to evolve from the gas guzzlers they are depending on now. We need an alternative to $3.00 + a gallon gas.
Keep up the good work and continue to innovate; it's good for your bottom line and my pocketbook.
Posted by: ROC | February 22, 2008 at 04:44 AM
I think the market is begging for more fuel efficient, driveable utility vehicles of this sort. Personally, I need a truck, but don't want to give up the comfort and fuel efficiency of my sedan. How about a clean-diesel powertrain, though?
Posted by: James | February 22, 2008 at 05:46 AM
Yes, please build the A-BAT! There's so much to like about this vehicle. I'm an active person and this vehicle would fit my needs without being excessively large and drinking a lot of fuel (I hope). Fuel economy is a huge factor for me. The AWD will add traction in winter driving. The rear seats are a great place for groceries, shopping bags, or the occasion when you drive others to lunch. I hope the rear seats will flip up as they do in the Honda Ridgeline. I'm an avid road and mtn cyclist with expensive bicycles I prefer to keep out of the rain and locked up while parked at work. The Ridgeline and the Fit actually have a bicycle wheel trough that is revealed when you flip up their rear seats. I'd love to see support for behind the seat bicycle storage inside the A-BAT. I like the flexibility the A-BAT's bed offers. We do a lot of gardening and a truck would really help with hauling small trees and shrubs from the nursery, as well as hauling away garden debris. The lack of a truck bed has been a minor disadvantage of my RAV4. But I like the size and fuel economy of the RAV4. The Tacoma is too big these days for my liking. The size, versatility, and fuel economy potential of the A-BAT make it the perfect vehicle for me. For the record, I think it's looks cool too. Sure it might look a little like the Ridgeline, the GMC concept, or the Dodge concept from a few years ago, but I think the A-BAT looks the best. It's smaller than those other vehicles and it's a hybrid to boot!
Telecommunications Technical Writer,
Boulder, Colorado
Posted by: Ken Tilley | February 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM
When I first saw the A-BAT several months ago, my first thought was “what were these guys thinking?” Unfortunately I still feel that way. I like the idea, but what has been designed is not very attractive. The design is just too futuristic and I don’t think the public is ready for it yet (maybe in another 20 years?). Tone down the looks, and Toyota might have something worth marketing, as I think mini-trucks will make a comeback one day. As far as suggestions & comments. Here you go... Give it a more standard truck front end, with more ‘typical’ headlights, and a more ‘vertical’ windshield. I’m not sure about the practicality of the folding-down-into-the-cab cargo bed – that is a love it or hate it design (personally I don’t care for it, and I’ve driven & owned Toyota trucks since 1984). Other bed features are good. The interior trim and seats also need to be toned down – concept designs look ‘cool’ as concepts, but really need to be more practical for production. The idea of bringing Hybrid technology to trucks is a good move! Kudos for that. We need to see more hybrid and alternative power options for trucks (the US should really follow Japan’s lead in this field).
I’d really like to say thanks for giving us enthusiasts the opportunity to let you know directly how we feel... Keep up the forward thinking!
Posted by: Toyotageek | February 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Build It! Toyota has reinvented the game many times and with the A-BAT you have the opportunity to do it again. I would definately buy something like this, I feel like it supports my active lifestyle while looking professional and unique. I love the sliding drawer idea, bed illumination, and flash light. You definately need to keep the cool alloy IP design and although the Solor Panels may not be implemented at this time, you need to find something else that will make this "Green" in a unique way that complements the Hybrid Powertrain. Also offering a trim that is less rugged and more towards urban, or luxury flavors would be cool. And throw in an entry level trim with 4-cyl. Turbo-charged powertrain, ala late 80's Toyota pickup, and you just got yourselves tons of customers lining up at the dealership.
Posted by: LLC | February 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Almost as ugly and stupid an idea as the Avalanche type vehicles. It's usless as a truck and equally impractical as a passenger car. What not build trucks and not this sissy looking aberration of a vehicle. This one must be aimed at the guys that are a little "short" on manhood hoping that it will help them. What not call it the "Toyagra" and get it over with!!! I guess that the 20-35 y.o. crowd with more money than brains will think it is hot and go furthetr into debt to have it, and then complain because they can't make house, boat and RV payments, but that's not your fault
Lets stick to real new ideas and forget this crappo stuff.
Bob in Riverside, CA
1987 Toyota Sunrader
1998 Camry
2006 Toyota Something soon
Posted by: Bob Miller | February 22, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Build it and I will come...and buy it! I don't want to speak for anyone else, but this is the truck that I need. Compact trucks are no longer compact and it is hard to justify the reduced gas mileage and ever-increasing size in today's economy.
I think this is a wonderful concept for two reasons: 1) It has the right drivetrain for folks that will use the vehicle as a commuter Monday-Friday; 2) It provides true utility for the weekend sportsman. I mountain bike, ride dirt bikes, and fly fish and this vehicle is the right tool for the job.
As far as looks, it is different, but in a good way. It differentiates itself from the common pick-up truck, yet it still looks aggressive.
Posted by: Chris Deutschen | February 22, 2008 at 01:10 PM
"Electrician, Los Angeles"
If you build a hybrid truck for people who will do real work out of it, consider the option of a built in ~300A CC/CV/HF inverter welder and a healthy (10KW or better) AC Generator. It would be a simple modification to the output section of the Synergy Hybrid Drive system, and heck of a selling feature to anyone in the building or repair trades.
That means you can do a lot more real work with a small fuel-efficient work vehicle, and carry around the supplies you need - without a seperate (and heavy) engine-driven welder/generator taking up most of the truck bed, or towing it around on a trailer.
Posted by: Bruce | February 22, 2008 at 03:00 PM
I would definitely like to own an A-BAT. One characteristic that I prefer is off-road ability. My first truck was an plain jane Toyota Hi-Lux that I bought in 1985. It had vinyl seats and floor mats which were great from an off-roaders perspective, carpet is too dang hard to clean. I prefer a standard transmission as I feel (with 25 years of offroading experience) that a manual transmission gives me better control off road. Keep the automatics for the pavement. I want a truck that I can go up old trails and be able to pull out full size fords, chevys and dodges. I have embarrassed many a full size driver with my lil bitty Toyotas.
Posted by: Ernie G | February 22, 2008 at 08:23 PM
Please build this hybrid truck, although I, too, am not crazy about the looks, which seem like a cross between the ugly Ridgeline and the good-looking Baja. How about some red leather and/or fabric seats, too. Oh, and please keep the NVH low...I'm a musician and I like quiet so I can really hear my tunes, or just think while driving. And, it needs to earn the iihs.org top crash test rating like a Subaru, so make it strong.
Posted by: Sharon Lewis | February 22, 2008 at 10:12 PM
How could this be considered aerodynamic with so much frontal area? There is no way the hood needs to be that high and it must have horrible forward visibility to boot. I like the concept - it would work for me. But I would rather have real aerodynamics and something much less ugly.
Posted by: J Harrell | February 23, 2008 at 05:55 AM
I like the concept but for me I would prefer a clone of the 81-85 basic truck. This is a segment that is missing from market and attests to the popularity of these trucks today. Simple cost effective work trucks for the masses. I have 3 that I alternate driving and they are easy to work on and keep on ticking through 100's of thousands of miles of service. Todays truck offerings are too fancy and not as rugged.
JM2CH
Posted by: Tim O'Rourke | February 23, 2008 at 06:37 AM
Please, all that needs to change is the front end!
alot of people disagree with the front end from motortrend forum. so, please, change the front end, make it look aggressive like how Toyota is!!!!!!
Posted by: Max | February 23, 2008 at 09:08 AM
A great idea! I’ll pass on the styling (to each his own) but find the usefulness I wish I had with my 2002 RAV. A couple of things though: First, with the front seat set all the way back, the back seat should provide good space for a six footer. This is an unfortunate shortcoming in my RAV. Second, as the truck is described it could probably list at $40K plus and therefore miss a large market. Also, I agree with the suggestion to offer a turbo 4 cylinder.
Posted by: JOhn | February 23, 2008 at 02:19 PM
A great idea! I’ll pass on the styling (to each his own) but find the usefulness I wish I had with my 2002 RAV. A couple of things though: First, with the front seat set all the way back, the back seat should provide good space for a six footer. This is an unfortunate shortcoming in my RAV. Second, as the truck is described it could probably list at $40K plus and therefore miss a large market. Also, I agree with the suggestion to offer a turbo 4 cylinder.
Posted by: John, Portland OR | February 23, 2008 at 02:21 PM
The A - Bat is a great idea. I would love to buy a tacoma but I shiver at the thought of the high cost of gas and my 50 mile a day commute. This concept gives you the best of both worlds with great fuel economy and utility. I believe you would find a great many homeowners who would love this truck because of the bed. It would be great for trips to home depot as well as a daily commuter. We need compact pickups back in the market instead of the midsize trucks that are out there now. The styling is great because most hybrid buyers want to stand out. Don't forget to price it right and it will be a winner.
Posted by: Bryan Horn | February 23, 2008 at 10:59 PM
I like it - it's cool. It seems to have some great utility value, especially in the bed, and also with its hybrid engine. Maybe get rid of the yellow interior though. I'll probably be needing a new vehicle soon, and if this is in production, it will definitely be on my list to look at.
Posted by: deb | February 24, 2008 at 01:02 AM
If I knew the A-BAT would be available in the next year or two, I would not even bother looking to replace our 2003 Prius. But, as we stand today, we need to downsize our auto lot from two vehicles to just one. Without knowing when and if something like the A-BAT will be available, we're looking at the Ford Escape Hybrid FWD. The Highlander is only available in AWD/4WD, which diminishes the mpg and is more vehicle than we need. We commute into the D.C. area nearly daily and use the second vehicle to drive long distances on trips and haul larger items (i.e., light building supplies, canoe, dogs, ...). We're looking for something that would fit both needs and the A-BAT looks to be the ticket.
Please, if Toyota is seriously thinking about putting more development dollars and money into producing a "mid-sized" multi-use vehicle, know that the market is interested. We would be happy to be among the first to scope out the functionality of the vehicle if given the chance. When we look at what kind of options we'd like in our next vehicle, Toyota has hit some of our key needs; high EPA, the use of 'green' technology (i.e., solar panels), cruise control, comfort (including sound dampening), use flexibility (i.e., convertible vehicle space).
Thank you for the opportunity to offer our thoughts!
Posted by: KTsRidin | February 24, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Looks pretty good, I really like the added bed storage and drawer idea under the tailgate. Additionally the tailgate extender is a must to be able to move a couch, plwood, or anything that more typically you would like to have a full size pickup truck to move. The #1 thing however is that it is a hybrid and will have decent gas mileage with off road capabilities. I have to be honest though I am really interested in a vehichle with at least 7,000lbs towing capacity. How close are you to offering a hybrid Tundra or diesel powered Tundra? The market is dying for a full size pick-up truck that acually gets 20mpg. Chevy has attempted this but their alleged part time 8 cylinder and 4 cylinder Silverado only gets about 14mpg. Anyway please, please, please, bring a full size truck with fuel economy to market. Texas does not represent the views of the entire country!
Posted by: Matt R of Seattle, WA | February 24, 2008 at 09:01 PM
Love it! Perfect size for for someone that wants the versatility of a truck but not the size. It will be both fuel efficient and green, with a unique look that will catch on. I wouldn't want to catagorize, but as a woman, it would be a perfect truck, which my husband wouldn't be ashamed to drive. If the price is right, I would jump on the band-wagon and get myself one.
Posted by: Renee Christman | February 25, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Love it! Perfect size for for someone that wants the versatility of a truck but not the size. It will be both fuel efficient and green, with a unique look that will catch on. I wouldn't want to catagorize, but as a woman, it would be a perfect truck, which my husband wouldn't be ashamed to drive. If the price is right, I would jump on the band-wagon and get myself one.
Posted by: Renee Christman | February 25, 2008 at 12:12 AM
I think the size is "spot on" in a very long overdue segment. The show version has a few too many "racer boy" features that should go away. I would also encourage a small diesel powerplant with tall gearing. A perfect match for my tatstes would be to leverage your venture with Subaru and put the new Boxer Diesel in this vehicle. That would be a true segment leader. I would buy one!
Posted by: Grover | February 25, 2008 at 05:44 AM
Please build the A-BAT. I am your typical suburbanite who commutes to work every day and wants good mileage, but also would like to haul the occasional sheet of plywood. This is exactly what I need. I'm really impressed with the concept of it - the fact that you've paid attention to details like being able to haul a 4'x8' sheet of plywood while keeping the overall size of the vehicle down is awesome. This is a great use of the available space.
I would only suggest one change to the design - from the pictures, it seems that visibility might not be the best. If you could do something to open up the back door windows a bit near the C-pillar, that would be great. I can imagine basically making the rear edge of the rear door windows slope to follow the doorline rather than forward would make a big difference and look good but, of course, I don't know how that would affect the structural integrity of the door.
I have one other thing - a starting price below $25,000 would be great. I don't need all the bells and whistles like power locks and power windows - that's just more to go wrong. I just need a reliable, solid vehicle. Having some variety in the trim levels to allow for a decent starting price would be awesome.
Thanks!
Posted by: Travis Rassat | February 25, 2008 at 06:01 AM
Currently I Drive a 06 Tacoma
1. I want a hybrid 4x4 truck and my next purchase will likely be a hybrid truck.
2. Would I buy the HBAT? Only if its the replacement to the current TACOMA and you wouldn't offer a hybrid TACOMA and there isn't a more traditional look that is a hybrid. I like the look of the current truck. Honestly the Hbat looks to much like a Honda truck for my taste. I like the utility aspect of the HBAT, just not the look. I prefer my truck to look like a truck not a car.
Here's my wish list for technology I'd like in my Dream hybrid truck:
GM's Active Fuel Mgmt. system or similar.
Gas/Electric Hybrid. I don't know enough to determine preference of parallel or series hybrid engine.
Regenerative Breaking.
Integrates thin film solar tech like that of Heliovolt.
Also would like for it to take advantage of carbon fiber tech.
Posted by: MarkR | February 25, 2008 at 06:06 AM
Yes, please build it, and build it as a PHEV as well. As a small businessman, living in a very crowded city center, I can unfortunately only afford 1 vehicle - currently a 1989 Toyota Xtra Cab - but do not always need a truck, especially if I am not hauling tools.
A vehicle that could serve both my needs as a work truck and a daily fuel-efficient commuter PHEV would make terrific sense.
Curt in Washington DC
Posted by: Curt Barger | February 25, 2008 at 06:07 AM
Currently I Drive a 06 Tacoma
1. I want a hybrid 4x4 truck and my next purchase will likely be a hybrid truck.
2. Would I buy the HBAT? Only if its the replacement to the current TACOMA and you wouldn't offer a hybrid TACOMA and there isn't a more traditional look that is a hybrid. I like the look of the current truck. Honestly the Hbat looks to much like a Honda truck for my taste. I like the utility aspect of the HBAT, just not the look. I prefer my truck to look like a truck not a car.
Here's my wish list for technology I'd like in my Dream hybrid truck:
GM's Active Fuel Mgmt. system or similar.
Gas/Electric Hybrid. I don't know enough to determine preference of parallel or series hybrid engine.
Regenerative Breaking.
Integrates thin film solar tech like that of Heliovolt.
Also would like for it to take advantage of carbon fiber tec
Posted by: MarkR | February 25, 2008 at 06:07 AM
This is very close. I would make sure there is enough room in the back seat for a full sized adult to sit comfortably on an extended drive. 4WD is a must have option. Looks like it may have huge blind spots. If the price is reasonable, this is the type of vehicle I would buy.
Posted by: Wayne | February 25, 2008 at 06:16 AM
If you built it you would have the only vehicle capable of filling the daily driver and weekend hauler needs. The large "light" pickups of today barely get better gas milage than a full size pickup. Like most people, I don't need truck capabilities enough to justify the cost. I would definitely consider buying one. The solar panels are neat, but do the benifits outway the cost? I think the body looks great. Clean diesel would be nice.
Posted by: Matt | February 25, 2008 at 06:18 AM
Very good..
A diesel is what we want on the truck line up, this or Tacoma, giving us low end torque and better fuel efficiency.
Then it would be GREAT!!!
Posted by: justin | February 25, 2008 at 06:30 AM
I love this vehicle and have from the moment I saw it. It is exactly what I would need to sway me away from my Jeep Grand Cherokee which has always been the sticking point. The suicide doors rock. The power pack is innovative and very apealing to me. Having the solar panels vent hot air when not charging the pack would be a great bonus. Having the Synergy drive is perfect. I think the headlights could be larger. The only thing really missing for me is the ability to plug it in. My family would like two new vehicles, but we are going to wait until an affordable plug-in is available. Period... And my jeep will only be replaced by something which can plug in, go at least 20 miles on epower, and still be able to tow our popup camper on long weekends. I may have to wait a while but what we have is paid for. I can wait.
Posted by: james | February 25, 2008 at 06:34 AM
After reading all post here I got a impression of ''Déjas vue!'' remember my all the comments Nissan gets for is Murano...This is a very mice design and I'm a 47 year old man with a open mind..There some glich like the side window (front and rear) to narrow and the tailgate is to hight to get a good rear view so you will need a rear view camera in reverse gear . The interior is a bit to much Startrek look alike for my taste but you already know I'm not a young spring chicken...This is new and like the FJ return It's refreshing but I will no buy this truck because he will not tow my 2800Lbs camping trailer. To bad because I realy like is line.
Posted by: Gilles,Québec,Canada | February 25, 2008 at 06:59 AM
First, I would buy one because I need to haul a mountain bike and a dirt bike to the trailhead, so the mid gate/bed extender are essential. Second, I think the demand for this vehicle is WAY underestimated. There's a ton a people driving Xterra OR, F40, 4 door Wrangler, etc. because that's the only thing available for hauling 4 people and/or cargo. This huge crowd is dying for an A-BAT type vehicle. Keep the MPG's up, as well as the ground clearance. If the power out was AC w/20 amps, I think you'd get a lot of contractors as well.
Posted by: John Weale | February 25, 2008 at 07:00 AM
Overall, the ABAT is interesting and worthy of praise. I am a designer with personal preferences. This is what I would want. If this is going to be an electric hybrid or plug-in, I would immediately integrate solar panels into the roof - to supplement battery charging and to feed power back and forth while parked, for the coming V2G (vehicle to grid). There is also the potential to integrate a roll-out, thin film flexible solar cover into the tailgate, that would be pulled toward the front of the vehicle and latched behind the back seat to cover the bed. As for the rear seats, my son would not let me buy a scion Xb because the back seats were too cheap and not very comfortable. I would have to have about 4 inches more in back, used for thicker, better seating, legroom, and larger back doors. Also, on 2 occasions, I did not buy the first generation Tundra, because the back seat was awful with no angle on the back support. If the back doors can not be opened without first opening the front doors, like the Honda Element, I would NOT buy the vehicle. The back doors must open and close independently of the front doors. On the bed, I would put another 8 inches right on the tail end, or extend the wheelbase. The back of the vehicle looks great. For me, the side windows are too small. I don’t like restricted visability. I would extend them down a few inches, bring the rear windows all the way back to the back door frames, and raise the roofline 2-3 inches for more headroom. The placement of the headlights is too radical. It messes-up the lines of the hood, which would be more stylish, by placing the front lights on either side of the grill, which is very nice. Also the snub nose is great. It reduces the overall length, which helps when you put your vehicle in the garage. I would put a rake on this vehicle, maybe 3 inches higher in the back than the front. One last note. My next new vehicle will get a minimum of 35 mpg on the open road. POB 18902, 85731.
Posted by: JoSmith | February 25, 2008 at 07:27 AM
The A-BAT is not the most beautifully styled vehicle ever, but neither is my 06 Scion xB--I bought it because it was inexpensive, space-efficient, and gets great mileage (I have nearly a 35mpg lifetime avg.). Sell the A-BAT with these three key attributes and watch the buyers line up. Hybrid may be a good option--if its with a 4cyl, preferably the 1.5l--but best keep these in mid-20s for price. Or, sell a non-hybrid as a Scion for sub-20k. Just keep it small!
Posted by: 06 xB driver | February 25, 2008 at 07:45 AM
Flexible utility seems spot on to me. I do not much like the "styling," but that wouldn't stop me from the purchase. What would stop me is that my next car or truck must be a plug-in with at least 30 miles of electric low-speed range. That's where all of us do most of our driving. Without that, it has nothing of sufficient significance over my Tacoma.
Posted by: Dennis Burges | February 25, 2008 at 07:45 AM
I would love to see the toyota ABAT move into production. I like the idea of being able to haul 4x8 sheets of plywood and still get good gas mileage. My preference would be a 4 cylinder diesel engine. You'd still have some decent towing with that. I think there's a big untapped market for pickups like this. In big cities the ABAT would really take off.
Posted by: thomas loy | February 25, 2008 at 07:49 AM
Build it . I want two. There is a need for this size truck on the market. Let me know when its available.
Posted by: Larry Lunghamer | February 25, 2008 at 07:52 AM
The A-BAT is not the most beautifully styled vehicle ever, but neither is my 06 Scion xB--I bought it because it was inexpensive, space-efficient, and gets great mileage (I have nearly a 35mpg lifetime avg.). Sell the A-BAT with these three key attributes and watch the buyers line up. Hybrid may be a good option--if its with a 4cyl, preferably the 1.5l--but best keep these in mid-20s for price. Or, sell a non-hybrid as a Scion for sub-20k. Just keep it small!
Posted by: 06 xB driver | February 25, 2008 at 08:04 AM
The A-BAT will not be on my list of vehicles to purchase. When I replace my 2004 Tacoma 4x4, I want a truck built on a truck chassis, and would prefer a small diesel engine.
Posted by: Tuningforkrider | February 25, 2008 at 08:37 AM
Looks are fine, although that's not really how I choose vehicles. My only concern is the shape of the "c" pillar--it looks like big rear blind spots, and may be hard to make cargo caps.
If it's small, flexible and efficient, I'm very interested. Of course actual MPG figures would help. I don't care if it's hybrid, diesel, or what--I just want to reduce petroleum usage.
I really, really like the flexible bed space. Keep going with the flexibility, and offer an easy-to-remove cargo cap with a pop-up canvas top (bonus points if it works when the bed is extended!). This could be great for camping.
Posted by: Chad delRedmond | February 25, 2008 at 08:52 AM
This is not a niche. This is a major market swallowed whole by cheap gas & 1/2 ton pickups. Rising fuel prices, contraction of credit, and a bursting housing bubble are going to force a lot of people out of their 1/2 tons - more Big 3 market share could be eroded in this way. Channel these buyers to the ONLY fuel efficient light truck in North America - it is a lot more in line with the reality of their needs.
As a truck, rear visibility needs to be excellent - not compromised by the C-pillar.
You can bet GM will make a unibody pickup - Toyota can build on the image of the Prius for the A-BAT's efficiency, and the fantastic reputation of previously offered Toyota small pickups to ride the crest of this wave.
Why not be first? Toyota has proven the technology already. Without being first (and trumping competitors by offering it as a hybrid), the new Kia/Hyundai trucks, the new unibody Explorer [SportTrac] and GM unibody trucks, along with an improved Ridgeline, are going to be stealing sales from you in a market you could have recreated - Toyota has a reputation as a small-truck pioneer building on the same things people value Toyota's for today - quality and reliability.
Posted by: DC | February 25, 2008 at 08:57 AM
I think the A-BAT is the vehicle that I have been looking for. I currently drive a Honda Civic Si for performance and economy and a Nissan Frontier pickup for utility. I would readly give up these two vehicles for an A-BAT if it has reasonable performance (0-60 mph in less than 9 seconds) and good fuel economy (at least 30 mpg overall). Taut handling would definitely be a plus. I don't mind the industrial design of the concept too much, although the "assault vehicle" look could be toned down a little for production. The outward visibility from the cab should be improved--the massive C-pillar would be a safety hazard. I think the overall size is just right, and I really like the flexible cabin/bed configuration that allows either 4 passengers or more hauling capacity. I have seen various posts comparing the A-BAT to the Honda Ridgeline. To me, there is no comparison--the Ridgeline is much bigger and has regular pickup fuel economy. My vote on the A-BAT: build it soon.
Posted by: Gene Bishop | February 25, 2008 at 09:07 AM
Build it . I want two. There is a need for this size truck on the market. Let me know when its available.
Posted by: Larry Lunghamer | February 25, 2008 at 09:15 AM
PLEASE build the A-BAT. Currently I drive a Prius and LOVE it. However because I have a family and own a house, I would LOVE to have a versatile fuel efficient truck. There doesn't seem to be one on the market currently, and Toyota could be first.
Posted by: Joe LaGreca | February 25, 2008 at 09:31 AM
I would love something LIKE this. However, I would like a truck that has a full back seat, which I am not sure this has, and a bed long enough to mount 2+ bikes in the back. I am not certain that this has either from the description.
Posted by: Cavalier | February 25, 2008 at 09:38 AM
The problem with Hybrids and PHEV's and the buzz of the future is really this:
- With gas prices showing no signs of respite, the US consumer is not stupid. Like me, there are a ton of people out there looking to eliminate or severely curtail their gas bills. So something like this should be music to their ears right? Wrong.
- If Toyota and Honda (the only ones who were pioneers of commercially available Hybrids with decent stats) actually produce these adult sized gizmos for the road in numbers that give us enough economy of scale, then we'd see more of them actually "available" for sale in the lots. Look at the Prius. By the time the tax break dwindled down to being freely available, the consumer lost interest and is now waiting for the next best thing for his money.
- So if they are availble in the lots and we actually had a choice we'd go and buy right? Guess what? Wrong again. Because of it's snob value, these folks go and price it at a point where the good old V6 with a regular fuel burning engine seems like a God-send. Look at what is happening at Tesla. One decent car to be seen in and it's priced at close to a 100K. I could buy a decent single family home in Texas and live there all my life for that kind of money.
- And then there are the slew of concepts. All of them being considered for 2010 or beyond - if at all.
- By the time Toyota gets its BAT out to play, we'll be too far into the innings for it to be serious consideration.
About time Detroit, Torrence, Ohio and Japan sat at the drawing board and decide that the time to produce and ride the wave is NOW. I mean is it actually so hard to see that oil is not an option anymore?
Posted by: Ashvin | February 25, 2008 at 09:57 AM
I think this truck is amazing. I loved the smaller Toyota Tacomas (before they got a little bigger - but I understand, you wanted more versatility). Couple a smaller truck, better fuel economy, and versatility in one and you've got the A-BAT (and a truck that you should build). The only question would be in the area of possible price, but I'm sure that with the third generation of your hybrid technology coming out the price shouldn't suffer too much.
I would say build it. I would certainly purchase one given the opportunity.
Posted by: Cory J | February 25, 2008 at 09:58 AM
I think this truck is amazing. I loved the smaller Toyota Tacomas (before they got a little bigger - but I understand, you wanted more versatility). Couple a smaller truck, better fuel economy, and versatility in one and you've got the A-BAT (and a truck that you should build). The only question would be in the area of possible price, but I'm sure that with the third generation of your hybrid technology coming out the price shouldn't suffer too much.
I would say build it. I would certainly purchase one given the opportunity.
Posted by: Cory J | February 25, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Styling will change, I'm sure, to look more like the current offerings. Just make sure it's a hybrid (diesel-electric!) and try to ignore the old school big truck guys who say the new direction and evolution of these trucks can't/won't work.
npm
'89 LandCruiser
Posted by: npm | February 25, 2008 at 10:08 AM
I need exactly this type of vehicle, I need it to seat 4 and have the highest mpg possible. Like most people interested in these types of vehicles I will never haul anything heavy, so lightweight and high MPG is what I need.
Posted by: samma | February 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM
The US needs a capable, small pickup w/ strong 4wd and good gas mileage. With all due respect for the popularity of the Prius, I think most people on this board would much prefer a small diesel to a hybrid. So what does this add up to? Build the ABAT w/ a good diesel (subaru sourced or otherwise) or give us a hi lux (finally) w/ a diesel and you'll have a winner. Continue to upsize the tacoma in the face of $4/gallon gas and people like me will go elsewhere.
Ryan
1993 PU SR5
1996 Taco
Posted by: Ryan | February 25, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Build it soon. I would buy one.
If it's going to be a "active lifestyle" vehicle, it has to have at least minimal towing capacity. Active folks have lots of toys and often trailers.
Maybe offer the hilux diesel engine for those who need towing and have hybrid synergy drive for those who don't. Either should give you 30+ mpg.
I agree with others that the huge C pillar is an issue. A big blind spot is guaranteed to get bad reviews for safety in the American press, not good for any vehicle.
Posted by: TomWc | February 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Skip the transformer styling. Leave that stuff to GM, which seems determined to make its volt too ugly to buy no matter what the mileage.
My wife and I loved our 1993 2wd Toyota pickup (2.3 liter 4) we bought almost new in 94 for 7000 dollars. It was small, efficient and very very useful. When we look at the market today we see big, we see inefficient, so we keep going. If you could bring back a small, light, somewhat funky (more retro than robot) useful pickup with either an efficient diesel or a diesel/electric hybrid or even a 100% electric I'd snap it up in a second.
Posted by: John Krumm | February 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Put a big battery in it and attach a plug and I'll buy one a soon as it hits the showroom floor! I'am waiting for a battery upgrade for my prius now!!!
Posted by: David Williams | February 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM
It would be great to see this truck on the road. But generally speaking it would be better if Toyota started selling your european diesels in the US. Speaking of, combine clean diesel and the hybrid technology and I would buy almost regardless of how it looked...But if it would be looking like the A-BAT even better:-)
Posted by: Peter Birkedal Peterson | February 25, 2008 at 12:35 PM
love its design -make it a hybrid and its all mine
Posted by: joey Chang | February 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM
I would really like the utility of a pickup coupled with the ability to seat 4 (4 doors) and be able to get good gas mileage. My current hybrid vehicle gets around 50mpgs and does everything but give the utility of a pickup.
If you can bring this to market at a resonable price point and with a minimum MPGs of 40 or better than you will have a sale from me.
On the other hand, if this ends up in the 20's or even low 30's for fuel economy then I doubt I would buy it.
One note, make sure the front seat has plenty of travel room. I have found most Toyota hybrids to be a bit cramped in the leg room up front.
Posted by: Gary | February 25, 2008 at 01:12 PM
YES YES YES!!! I currently own a Prius and a Tacoma. I drive the Prius all the time, but need the truck on the weekends for hauling around mulch, bikes, etc. The A-BAT is the perfect vehicle for me, please build it ASAP.
Posted by: Earl | February 25, 2008 at 02:42 PM
I would buy one right now! My only concerns: how do you open that drawer under the tailgate after a fenderbender, and may I have a different color interior, please?
Posted by: Richard Ferris | February 25, 2008 at 03:04 PM
I like the idea of this car, if you built it, made a diesel engine an option (Compete against the VW Jetta TDI), and sold it in the US, I would buy it now.
Posted by: Hiram Knickerbocker | February 25, 2008 at 03:11 PM
The A-bat is absolutely hideous looking. I suppose Toyota might luck up and sell a few of these to city dwelling metrosexuals. Instead, please hurry up getting the FJ Cruiser SUT concept out ...the one shown at SEMA with the short exterior bed. Now there is a product to love. Not this freakish abomination.
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/01/sema-fj-cruiser-soft-top/
Posted by: Me | February 25, 2008 at 03:59 PM
Build it and I'll buy it.
Still driving my 91 4runner with 400,000KM's. Great vehicle except for the fact that it is an absolute pig on gas - I have the V6.
Anyway I am not buying another truck until something sensible comes out. Something I can tow a couple of kayaks with, go camping, minor offroaing, Home Depot stops and of course a good daily driver. Hybrid + all that great utility (like the drawer) are a must.
Bring to market!
Posted by: Jude | February 25, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Do It!! Great Concept. Make it as green and eco-friendly as possible and keep those solar panels in there.
Posted by: Daniel Ceo | February 25, 2008 at 04:10 PM
This is what I've been waiting for. I hope my Ranger holds up until you've got them in production.
Personally, I'd prefer better styling and a manual trans, but the basic concept is great.
Posted by: jr | February 25, 2008 at 04:58 PM
This is exactly the vehicle I would buy. I drive a small truck now (Ford Ranger) - like most people I only use the truck bed on occasion (trip to the dump - bringing furniture home from IKEA, for example). I've been hoping to buy an electric truck, but the truck I've been watching (Phoenix) is not going to be affordable to the average person.
If the A-BAT is produced - please, please make it a PLUG-IN Hybrid!
Thanks.
Posted by: David | February 25, 2008 at 07:28 PM
This is the ugliest thing I have seen Toyota produce. How bout instead of producing this, put the technology into your fjcruiser, improve the blind spots and voila!!
Now That is something I could and would go out tomorrow and Buy!
Posted by: tommy | February 25, 2008 at 07:41 PM
Build it with AWD and a great stereo with integrated XM or Sirius Radio. Email me when I can buy one. Thanks... Walt Wood
Posted by: Walt Wood | February 25, 2008 at 09:27 PM
Please make the A-BAT. This truck looks amazing. The interior is absolutely beautiful. The translucent solar panel is a brilliant idea. I have a Prius because I wanted something that was versatile. The A-BAT takes versatility to the next level. Two things to change would be the front end design, more specifically the grill and head lights. The current design is dreadful. Something a little less squinty and more sleek, similar to the Prius. Also adding a way to seal the cargo bed when the back seat is folded down would be greatly appreciated in colder climates. Finally, if it is not an existing feature, please add a sunroof.
Posted by: Lauren | February 25, 2008 at 09:47 PM
I would buy the A-Bat in this configuration.
Here are my suggestions:
RWD and / or AWD or not at all.
Keep the solar panels. Please do not let the bean counters convince you guys to drop it.
Keep the price at about $20K (of course charge more for AWD).
No Power seats! Those things break too often. Manually adjusted seats are just fine.
Posted by: Jim | February 25, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I really like it as is. I would never consider buying a pickup because of their size, bad handling and inefficiency etc, and I don't need one for business. The versatility of this type of vehicle makes sense to me however. It's small enough to be nimble and efficient, carry four people, but with the extra utility of a small bed. Just please don't dumb down the interior for production. Toyotas have really boring interiors. Keep some interesting color options, since that's we what we see most of the car.
Posted by: Seth Simon | February 25, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Please build it but, with one exception, change the grill!!!!
All the angles are wonderful except the front end, is all.
Posted by: Max | February 26, 2008 at 12:52 AM
This is exactly what I have been waiting for. We have a Prius and and I would definitely buy this truck.
Posted by: John Pesackis | February 26, 2008 at 01:17 AM
I like the idea of a hybrid truck but I don't care for the looks of this one. Like other posters have said the Avalance, Ridgeline look is not for me and not practical for driving with those horrible blind spots. I drive a 2000 Tacoma and have been very happy with it. It would be nice to be able to replace it with a hybrid truck. But it has to have a 6 foot bed. I will not buy a truck with a 4 foot bed. It's not worth it. Have you considered a little Scion truck. Little trucks have disappeared. Everyone's little truck is now midsize. Thanks for listening
Posted by: Steve C | February 26, 2008 at 04:45 AM
Sell it with a standard drive train and i'll buy. I want a manual transmission and a 4 cylinder gas or diesel. Hybrids arent green enough for me to want to deal with maintenance costs and overhead price at buy in. I love the size and bed and the look too. If you build it with a standard drive train, i'll put a deposit in tomorrow. I'm in!
Posted by: Cheese302 | February 26, 2008 at 04:56 AM
For me the A-BAT is what I have been searching for. I need a vehicle that can haul sports equipment, mulch, a few boards from the lumber yard, or the kids bikes to the park without breaking the bank in cost or economy. I need something "cool" enough so that when I drop the kids off at school they aren't embarrassed to be seen leaving the car. I looked at the Ridgeline and the Avalanche and both vehicles are too big in size but more importantly too big at the pumps. Make it safe, economical, reliable, comfortable to drive and I will be a customer.
Posted by: RR | February 26, 2008 at 05:28 AM
I think it is a great idea, but the styling needs some work. Keep the functionality and economical features, but make it more rugged. Bring the belt line down and that C pillar is huge. How about a diesel hybrid.
Posted by: John | February 26, 2008 at 06:08 AM
As a Tacoma driver I feel that there is a place in Toyota's lineup for a smaller truck now. Toyota has always been a leader in small trucks and since the Tacoma grew up there has been a real lack of a quality small truck in our market. I would tone down the styling a bit for a production model, specifically making it look less like a Honda Ridgeline. The Ridgeline is a vehicle I have never liked, and the A-BAT reminds me just a bit too much of it.
Posted by: Jim Dickinson | February 26, 2008 at 06:20 AM
i think this concept is a great design. currently i am in college, but i could definitely see myself buying a truck of this sort. I woud not buy another pickup truck because of the fuel economy. This truck seems great for people who like camping or tailgating. Also I know many people who want somehing large for movig big things, but want good fuel economy and are stuck with either the rav 4 or honda crv which don't have much cargo room. this seems like the perfect solution. It will have 4 whee drive righ?
Posted by: ppp | February 26, 2008 at 09:32 AM
Of course this is a good idea. Look, I'm a hard-core environmentalist. I teach environmental biology, as a matter of fact. I also have a large garden/small farm. I need a small pickup. What are my options now? A 20-year old diesel VW to run biodiesel? A gigantic modern diesel bulldozer/truck? Pull a trailer behind a Prius? There's nothing green for small truck drivers. Thanks.
Posted by: Scott Jackson | February 26, 2008 at 09:51 AM
I the owner of previous Toyotas and I think this is a vehicle that I would definitely consider. I will soon be looking for a replacement for my 10+ year old Chevy S10 and like the idea of a small pickup. Should have never sold my 1984 Toyota pickup!
Posted by: George | February 26, 2008 at 10:17 AM
There's really nothing like this out right now and it's definitely something I want. Given that gas prices are only going to go up (demand in India and China alone will be huge in four years) we'll all be scrambling for alternatives to the existing archetypes we drive today. If this could flexibly replace a sedan or full size pickup (for homedepot runs, 4x8ply, etc.) you'll have a hit. People may not see it today but they will soon...
Posted by: Patrick | February 26, 2008 at 10:32 AM
I have been waiting for a decent compact truck to come onto the U.S. market. Some time ago, I contacted Toyota USA and asked about the Hilux. Unfortunately, I was informed that there were no plans to bring it to the USA. Between the Mitsubishi Triton, the Nissan Navara, the Toyota Hilux and the Mazda BT-50, the rest of the world has us beat in the small truck catagory. With gas prices going nowhere but up, I am looking for a stylish small pick-up to take to the beach (I enjoy surf fishing) and still look good in the city (where I work). Because the truck will do some hauling and off-road work, I would like to see a better bumper design. Even hard plastic could take more abuse than the molded ones on this prototype. The bumpers should be able to be replaced easily, as most trucks end up damaging them at some point. Larger headlights (placed lower down) and compsite bumper with fog lamps would also be nice. A composite bed is a must, and some side body cladding would not hurt, as the small public parking spots in the suburbs often mean that the door of your neighbor's car gets opened right into your side panel. Lastly, don't make the windows so small and high. It reminds me of the new FJ and every car review has slammed the FJ for it's bad visibility. I do not mind the Honda Rideline look at all, in fact, it works better in the city areas than the more utilitarian and boring Tacoma. Build it!
Posted by: Debbie A. | February 26, 2008 at 10:39 AM
i think this concept is a great design. currently i am in college, but i could definitely see myself buying a truck of this sort. I woud not buy another pickup truck because of the fuel economy. This truck seems great for people who like camping or tailgating. Also I know many people who want somehing large for movig big things, but want good fuel economy and are stuck with either the rav 4 or honda crv which don't have much cargo room. this seems like the perfect solution. I think toyota should stick with all the neat gadgets becuase those are very apealing especially to young people. If they could have some options for specific purpose for example caring a pair f canoes or maybe a grill the fits in perfect and can be plugged in when parked. Toyota should definitely build this truck. It will have 4 whee drive right?
Posted by: pat | February 26, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I love the truck, but if it is to be a F150 or Silverado killer, I suggest that it get AT LEAST 35 mpg and have the capability of towing a boat or other trailer with a max towing capacity of - say - 3500 lbs.
In my opinion, contractors would be falling all over themselves to get one, especially small business people, who could write off the expense, and use for family/personal transportation in off-hours.
Politically, lobby like hell to get rid of the SUV tax credit for vehicles over 6000 pounds.
Posted by: Kelly O'Brien | February 26, 2008 at 11:02 AM
I would love to see the U.S. market gain options like the A-BAT. There aren't any good compact trucks (The Ford Ranger is horribly outdated) available anymore, and the unique features of this concept only add to its value as the reinvention of the compact truck. The styling is too futuristic for some tastes; but by the time this model could meet production, most people would be used to the look. I am quite fond of its sleek, muscular body work. Add me to the list of people who think a clean diesel would be a good idea.
Posted by: Josh Farrar | February 26, 2008 at 12:37 PM
My dad owned a 1970's Toyota pickup truck which I have fond memories of. A 21st century version of this which the A-BAT appears to be could sell well. My first car was a '81 Corolla hardtop coupe which survived past 300,000 on the ORIGINAL drivetrain and I think Toyota would be served well by returning to simple, well made vehicles which made it famous.
The hybrid system is anything but simple but Toyota has demonstrated that it's well engineered and reliable so I'm not opposed to it. A small diesel would be my preference but it's a toss-up.
If I would change anything about the A-BAT it would be to give it a decent greenhouse! The "gun slit" shaped side windows is a passing fad and makes it hard to see around you. Also, a "basic" version with a Honda Element-like interior (no carpets, few electronic gizmos) and just then essential safety features would probably sell well. If others want to option it out to a luxurious standard, let them.
Just keep it relatively compact, relatively light, tough and relatively simple.
Thanks for your consideration.
Posted by: Benny | February 26, 2008 at 02:57 PM
The features I like most about this concept are the mid-gate and compact size. The ability to haul 4x8 material OR have a 4-foot bed and have a rear seat makes it extremely versatile. It's sort of like what the Jeep Scrambler could do, but better. I suggest that the bed have the ability to carry a motorcycle as well. I recommend that the size be limited to the dimensions of the previous Tacoma (2004 and earlier). I don't know why vehicles have to get larger, heavier, and more powerful with every new generation but get about the same fuel efficiency. Imagine what fuel efficiency would be like if manufacturers focused on efficiency alone instead of size and power.
I would like an optional manual transmission, and if it will have part-time 4 wheel drive capability, I suggest a manual transfer case lever. To increase passenger capacity, especially when the rear seats are down, I'd suggest using a 60/40 split bench for the front seats, like previous Tacomas had.
Regarding its looks, I would suggest toning it down a bit and maybe make it look like something related to a Tacoma.
As far as hybrid capabilities, I strongly suggest plug-in capability and electric-only modes with a range of 10-20 miles at least. That way the higher emissions and increased wear and tear associated with short trips can be avoided.
If a vehicle with all of the above features was offered for about $30,000, I would definitely buy it! Thanks for the opportunity to provide comments on this concept.
Posted by: Phil | February 26, 2008 at 03:39 PM
I like the looks of it. Make it fuel efficient with a diesel/hybrid option with plug in capability. Also, part time 4 wheel drive with an option for a manual transmission. Keep it as light as possible with low rolling resistance tires and it will be the answer to all those that need a truck to carry small items and are forced to purchase a vehicle much larger than needed that results in low fuel economy.
Posted by: Atlaw4u | February 26, 2008 at 04:01 PM
The idea is perfect but the design looks too much like a Isuzu Vehicross. Tone it down a bit (especially the front end) so it doesn't look so fake futuristic and we will buy one. Build it fast before everyone that needs utility and has a bit of eco-concern buys the upcoming Mihandra truck. The sketches of the upcoming Prius look great. If the A-Bat was a bit more fluid of a design like the Prius with a hint of the HI-LUX toughness you'll have a winner. P.S. If your looking for your target customer, heres some info: I'm 30 and looking for my next ride, prospects are - jetta sportwagen tdi, toyota a-bat, mihandra 4 dr truck, acura rds diesel, or any other fuel sipping car with some cargo space out before end of 09.
Posted by: Joe C | February 26, 2008 at 07:29 PM
Great concept. Finally small trucks are coming back! My first truck was a new 73 Datsun 1600 pu. Loved it for 10 years, 200k mi.
Styling is lacking. You need to understand that this vehicle would not be bought by kids. Honda made the mistake of thinking the Element would be for kids and the demographics are active geezers like me.Keep the built in utility and make design decisions on aerodynamics not comic books. I understand unibodies need strong C pillars but increase the thickness and internal webbing and decrease the length. I would also strongly recommend it be a plug in with Avalanche like lockable bed cover/solar panels at least as an option.Design it more with the Honda Element/utility floor bed and seat covers. As a construction worker/surfer/camper this could be ideal. The priorities should be 1-utility (pretty good now, except for interior materials)
2-price-(hopefully plug in prius tech ready to share costs)luxuries as options. Hope your listening, you have the chance to lead into an market niche that has to happen.
Posted by: Ray Tarkington | February 26, 2008 at 09:23 PM
styling is definetly a hit with me
Posted by: johnny | February 26, 2008 at 11:18 PM
My dreams and the dreams of a great many would be fullfilled by this practical vehicle! We have had a 07 Prius for several months now and are averaging better than 46 MPG with normal driving (160 miles round trip daily over the Altamont Pass to Silicon Valley California) and we LOVE IT! Gas was $3.19 G yesterday, UGH! We have had trucks for almost 20 years and can't imagine NOT having a truck. This looks perfect for those runs to the hardware store or taking the pups to the dog park. Camping, picnics... fun and practical, and easy on the wallet sounds GREAT! Build it and sell millions of them! My ultimate vehicle would be this with a bio-diesal option, and it must have a moon roof! PLEASE! get this to production ASAP! Toyota Lead and the others will follow! The Future looks bright! Thanks, Sean
Posted by: Sean M | February 27, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Good idea. be sure to do a luxury model with power seats, etc. - Many hybrids are stripped down models but the demographic that is willing to spend for a green car is often coming off luxury vehicles - Yeah, Lexus 400h is there, but hardly mileage to shout about. Be sure new hybrids get good mileage too.
Posted by: SW | February 27, 2008 at 02:40 AM
How easy is it to convert to the longer bed? This is crucial info that is missing from all descriptions I've read of this concept.
Overall, I can't believe this thing will ever get traction. If it's to be a pickup, make it a pickup. It appears to me to be a combo pseudo-truck/pseudo-sedan that won't fulfill the purposes of either a truck or a sedan.
I'd prefer that Toyota start over, working from the old Hi-Lux body and go forward from there, with an extra-cab-like second seat and an internally accessible six-foot bed, with lightweight materials and other innovations.
Cheers from a lifetime Toyota trucker --
2WD Pickup 1974
4WD Pickup 1987, still going strong
Posted by: Dean | February 27, 2008 at 07:59 AM
I want one. It looks like a great vehicle to drive to work (86 miles round trip a day)and to haul supplies for all the projects I have around the house. I like the storage compartments.
Posted by: Phil | February 27, 2008 at 08:20 AM
I like the design. It looks very agressive and sporty. I would love to have one. It's pretty much what I'm looking for and not finding in the market today. Something I can use to haul stuff when I need to but get's decent mileage when just being used to commute.
Posted by: Jeff | February 27, 2008 at 09:57 AM
All the aspects of the truck I like excpet its looks. The dang thing is but ugly.
I have been looking for a hybrid truck to be introudced to the market. I need a vehcile that can haul different items than my presnet car. I would love to buy a truck but with gas at $3 a gallon I can't justify a truck.
I might think of buying this if it hit the market but I just can't get over its ugly styling. That alone could stop me from buying this.
Posted by: Smurf | February 27, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Build it, it comes close to one of the vehicles I've been looking for. The A-Bat reminds me of a Honda Ridgeline but with updated features, better design and environmentally friendly.
Posted by: Idris Chin | February 27, 2008 at 02:24 PM
I like what I see. Toyoto quality and style with 35 mpg would work well in this market. You might consider an optional rear end ratio for those who don't want to pull something but want better mpg. This would be good on Tacoma also.
Posted by: Randy Pearson | February 27, 2008 at 03:00 PM
I think it's a great concept. It is what the avalanche should have been. The styling could be a little less Ridgelineish. The roof could be at least 6 inches taller. I think 4 regular doors would be better than the suicides in the back. I've been wanting this type of vehicle for years - a (home gardeners)pickup when you need it and an economical sedan when you don't. It could be called the cameleon. I'd buy it.
Posted by: PTS | February 27, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Production- production- production! I hope that makes my opinion clear. Here in S. Calif, everyone from surfers and skiers to commuters and suburbanites would love this vehicle. Look at the success of the Prius and the Scion products in this market. This is heavily a gen X (me) and Y product. I wanted a cool FJ Cruiser but the mileage is horrible.
Suggestions:
1. Keep the styling close to the concept...just ease up on the super aggressive grille.
2. Build in some tow capacity- 2000-3000 pound max would be ideal
3. Add a "pre conditioner" ventilation system that is solar powered to cool off the interior.
4. Get a concept into the hands of Motor trend and the like to play with off road and test...that will make potential buys even hungrier.
Just my two cents...
J
Posted by: Jerry- So. Cal | February 27, 2008 at 03:14 PM
Build it. AWD. I'd buy one, would be great for Colorado where everybody else is driving pickups that get 20 mpg. Headlights aren't the best and the cabin to tailgate sweep looks fine and likely has a lot to do with efficiency so keep it.
Posted by: Peter Lewis | February 27, 2008 at 05:55 PM
I love the concept of this truck. I want a swis army knife of vehicles, and this looks like it is. Ford Sports Track and Subaru Baja come close, but if you do this truck right I would own it.
This vehicle would fit my needs: good size for full family, can hold bicycle dirty dogs, and camping gear.
Posted by: Neb Cabilo | February 27, 2008 at 07:26 PM
Most of my driving is commuting - and I'd like to reduce my trips to the pump as much as possible. Occasionally, though, I need a truck. I've held out from buying either a hybrid or a truck, since the selection of hybrids don't meet my needs and I frankly don't need a truck enough to justify the purchase. This concept is closest to the kind of vehicle I've been looking for, so naturally I'm excited about seeing this in production. Like others, I'm not a huge fan of the front end, but I'd imagine that would be toned down a bit on a production model.
Posted by: Rick | February 27, 2008 at 10:45 PM
As a Prius owner, I applaud any and all adaptations of the Hybrid Synergy Drive.
My wife is a happy (with the exception of fuel economy) Rav4 owner, and wants desperately for you Toyota folks to Hybridize the Rav4, or produce some rough equivalent. I don't think this is quite it.
So, while it's cool-looking and will probably fit the lifestyles of many, we're really most interested in a standard SUV form, no bigger than the Rav4. Nothing special in the area of power or performance is required. If you just give us something that drives and handles about as well as our Rav4 AWD, and gets the kind of milage improvement one sees in, say, the hybridized Camry...good heavens we'll buy it right now. Please! This is great, but we need more choices!
Posted by: Adam B | February 28, 2008 at 02:06 PM
I'll trade my Prius and sell my Ranger!
Posted by: Alan | February 29, 2008 at 07:16 AM
As someone who lives in the rocky mountains and travels great distances in recreational pursuits the concept of truck with high mileage capabilities is very appealing. I have owned trucks my whole driving life 3 Toyota, 4 Fords, 1 Nissan. I have owned 3 Toyota SUV's.
Based on my experience and lifestyle I have always wondered why manufacturers have not built a more fuel effeicient utliliarian truck for consumers. I believe based on the recreational mountain bike consumer market alone that an "extreme sports" truck would sell well. Such a truck would include comfort and ease in cleaning (neoprene covered seats that could be taken out to clean up a messy interior). Ability to fold the back seat down with a covered truck bed that could be slept in. Dependable high mileage drive train.
If you could produce a concept truck with those features and the good looks of your ABAT at the price of your production (4dr fwd Tacoma that I now own) I would arrange to buy one as soon a possible. I think you could even build one not hybrid with a fuel efficient 4cyl that would sell well.
I wanted to buy your new large tundra (I had a 03 I traded for my present Tacoma because of gas mileage- unfortunately the Tacoma does not get much better) but it is ugly, big and gets crappy mileage.
Your ABAT almost fits my profile. My friend and I both took his prius on a 700 mile steelhead fishing trip from Montana to central Idaho. I was very impressed with comfort, features, and mileage. Since you have that vehicle I would market your ABAT as and extreme sport green truck not as a metro scooter.
Posted by: Todd Thun | February 29, 2008 at 07:17 PM
My name is Jeff and I am currently the owner of a 2001 Tacoma 4x4 extended cab 4cyl 5sp. I love this truck, has been like a tank. Anyway, I will be moving onto another vehicle in the neat future, yet little in the market intrigues me. The new Tacoma is nice, but larger than I would like it to be. Why does everything always have to become larger? The size of my truck is perfect, and no I don't use it much as a truck, more of a play truck than anything. But I have always had a truck, and in the Northeast, I would never go without four-wheel drive. Anyway, as gas prices rise, more people including me will actually consider mileage when purchasing a new vehicle. Simply put, I want a truck but have no need for a large one. The A-BAT or something similar would be great. Offer it with the hybrid if you want, but also an efficient fairly high-output 4cyl with a 6sp stick and I will promptly purchase one.
Posted by: Jeffrey | March 01, 2008 at 07:12 AM
I think the A BAT is an exciting concept that should become an in production reality. The exterior styling may not be award winning, but the many storage compartments and efficient use of space defintitely are.
If the gas mileage is anywhere near that of the Prius and the rear seats can actually comfortably seat an American sized adult this would definitely be something I would purchase if the price was right.
One note on the many rear compartments, first aid kit and flashlight: they should all be lockable or they would soon be missing and/or empty in today's cities.
I like the portable power supply idea. The truck bed power outlet should be sized to power portable power tools. A 20 amp plug would be ample.
One recommendation would be a barrier that would be integrated into the bed side of the rear tailgate. This barrier would normally sit flat against or fit into the tailgate, but if hauling with the tailgate down it could pivot up and lock into place giving the tailgate a tailgate and preventing plywood or other large loads from sliding off the truck.
Posted by: Eskimosand | March 01, 2008 at 02:41 PM
I like the pickup and would definitely consider buying one. I have an 04 Prius and love it. I am sure any new hybrid pickup/van will be a real sales winner.
Posted by: artie | March 02, 2008 at 06:19 AM
I like it. I would buy it. Tone down the inside. It doesn't look comfortable.
Posted by: Ray | March 02, 2008 at 07:27 AM
Be the firt, BUILD IT! I am in sales and drive 15,000-20,000 miles a year. This vechile is ideal for me and my equipment.
Let me know when I can put a deposit on mine.
Posted by: TOM YASCHEN | March 02, 2008 at 08:49 AM
I would buy one on the first day available. Great concept!
Posted by: tom | March 02, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Wow, I'm just hoping that the daring design theme carries into the production version. Let's face it, Toyota designs tend to be a bit on the safe and conservative side. I understand the rationale behind this - alienating the public with some offbeat designs would not sell you a lot of cars. But at the same token, the company has to attract the younger crowd as well. I would of their current models, Toyota only has one vehicle that "pushes the envelope" in terms of design: the FJ-Cruiser. Hopefully the A-BAT would make it two.
Posted by: JBains | March 02, 2008 at 10:36 AM
I'd like to see Toyota make the A-BAT - just keep it light, with good outward visibility, and the smallest engine possible. If it can hit the low-to-mid 30's for real-world HWY fuel economy, I'm interested.
Posted by: B | March 02, 2008 at 01:18 PM
My neighbor and I have already each placed $500 deposits at the local dealer. Please build it soon. I have two Prius cars and one is going to need replacing. While the Prius is a great car, it is not made for construction sites or teh deeper Michigan snow so this would be great. If it comes with 4 wheel drive in any form it would be even better. As for the looks, if you are concerned about that you don't need a truck, you need a hair dresser.
Posted by: Cory | March 02, 2008 at 03:36 PM
I currently own a 2004 GMC ENVOY XUV and I love it, but it is 4 years old and a little hard on gas, The A-BAT shares some of the desirable characteristics of the XUV like the fold down load bearing tailgate and the weatherproof and secure mid-gate. I can, and regularly do carry motorcycles in the back of my XUV from a 1948 Cushman to a 2007 Royal Enfield with the mid-gate closed and it looks like the A-Bat would do the same. It needs to have AWD and something with a little more punch than a four banger, at least a V-6, but better a small V-8 with variable displacement and a hybrid like GM's "Dual-Mode". I looked at the GMC Denali XT but that concept truck has a goofy curved tailgate that would be awkward and a mid-gate window that is fixed, limiting the cargo access into the passenger compartment. With respect to appearance, the oval grill center piece shown in an early sketch is much better looking than the one on the show car. The dash mounted solar panels are not practical. All in all, with a few tweeks, I could see myself replacing my XUV with an A-BAT, especially since GMC stupidly quit building the XUV
Posted by: winterconch | March 02, 2008 at 06:22 PM
If the ABAT was on the market today, it would be in my driveway and the keys in my pocket (price dependent of course).
I love all the neat features and techno gadgets, but that's not the only reason I'd get this truck.
There's simply no competition out there in the compact truck market. If I want a small, fuel efficient truck to get the job done, I have to buy a 20 year old Toyota "truck."
Toyota should just bring back the old vehicles and update the engine/drivetrain. They've already sourced the rest of the parts and all the tooling is paid for!
If Toyota decides to bring the ABAT to the market, please make sure you also offer a version with no hybrid, no gadgets, for $10k less.
Oh yeah...4WD with high ground clearance better be an option!
Posted by: Caleb Davis | March 03, 2008 at 05:23 AM
I think Toyota should build this truck. I was at the Detroit show when it was first shown and I thought it was one of the coolest concepts there. As long as it has enough power to tow a small boat or trailer with ease and has enough room for 4 people Toyota should definitely produce this truck. If they put a weak little engine in it then it would be pretty much useless. Be smart Toyota.
Posted by: Jon | March 03, 2008 at 05:35 AM
I am a current 2007 Chevy Avalanche owner. This is my second Avalanche. I love the versatility of the Avalanche it is the "Swiss Army knife of trucks"! I have a family of four that can ride comfortably. I utilize it for everything from home improvement projects to hunting/camping outtings and as a daily commuter. However, the major shortcoming is the gas mileage (19 mpg).
Since I do not tow much weight (<2000lbs)the A-Bat concept might be adequate. A couple of items that could be addressed:
1. Rear cargo area covers like the Avalanche is a must-have!
2. Remove storage item pockets from tailgate - it will trap debris. Cargo area needs to be easy to clean.
3. Roof top luggage rack.
4. Towing capability??
5. AWD may not be adequate for everyone.
6. Make sure tow hooks are accesible (unlike Tundra).
7. Ground clearance? Off road shields?
Glad to see it can handle a 4x8 sheet - a big must have! Looking forward to seeing this in production!
Posted by: Khris | March 03, 2008 at 06:33 AM
I'd love to buy one of these. There are currently no compact hybrid pickups on the market and although some of the smaller pickups on the market get reasonable fuel economy, they get nowhere close to what hybrid cars get. As for how it looks, I like it. Its a little different, but I like original. I just hope it doesn't have too many plastic moldings that would break easily if someone were sliding plywood or tools in and out of the truck's bed. If you build it...
Posted by: Patrick G | March 03, 2008 at 07:04 AM
I'm really excited about the design and functionality of the ABAT. I've been looking for a vehicle that can move both people and equipment without damaging the interior or scraping up the exterior, and this looks like it nails it. Put it out there!
Posted by: Allen | March 03, 2008 at 09:02 AM
I'm not sure if this will get read or heard, but this truck is exactly what I need. I'm a weekend warrior who does about 40-50 miles a day commuting back and forth to my normal job. I currently drive the most fuel economical pick up out there, the ranger. But I need one that is four door, and does better on the fuel economy. If this rolled out next year I'd make the switch, i love the back seats folding in to extend the bed. I'm also planning on growing my family in the next couple years so I need the back seat for a car seat. The looks are a bit quirky at first but i have to be honest I need the functionality. I also think that since we're paying 3 bucks a gallon now, in two years we'll be paying 5, fuel economy is key in the next car I buy. I'm also considering the Mahindra Diesel that will be coming out next year as they are claiming 30-35 mpg. The toyota name however carries a lot more weight.
Posted by: Steve S | March 03, 2008 at 10:35 AM
I think it's a GREAT idea! The look is different, but good. Very functional, well thought out. I have an '03 Avalanche & my wife has an '06 Rav 4. We just rented a Prius last month on a trip, and I was stunned at how responsive it was. Not like a little anemic ecno-car as I had thought a hybrid would be. I like all the extra storage and niceties you've included in the A-BAT to make it very versatile. The seating/interior looks a little futuristic, but if it works and is user friendly then stay with it. You've got the enginering degree after all. You build it, I'll buy it. It's a great combination of idea's who's time is way over due. Try to keep the base price under 30k and you've got a winner
Posted by: Glenn Richards | March 03, 2008 at 12:39 PM
I love this truck. My ideal vehicle would be one that combines 4 passenger seating, a pickup type bed/cargo area, and excellent fuel economy. The translucent roof, storage compartments and power pack are nice features to have as well. I will be watching the news releases for this truck hoping that it will be put into production. I'll be the first in line to order one!
Posted by: Kevin | March 04, 2008 at 05:41 AM
Nice concept. I like camping and exploring dirt roads in the desert. An FJ Cruiser is cool for that, but uses way too much fuel.
So, here is my suggestion: create a small SUV version of this pickup with good off-road capability and 3500 lbs of towing capacity.
I prefer the enclosed cabin of an SUV instead of the open bed and large cargo can be towed.
A fuel-efficient, all terrain hybrid SUV is sorely missing in my opinion. A hybrid FJ Cruiser would be another option, a bit larger.
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